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The possibilities I see with people you mentioned are: 1. Hundreds of thousands of bets is still within the realms of luck, especially with progression for example, 15 bets per 10, spins. Would the winners be earning a living? Last post: Nov 02, PM by martin. How many spins have they played in their lifetime? How To Play Roulette. You cannot sustain winnings with money management alone. I've asked the roulette guy for his program but he won't give it to me, don't blame him I suppose because it was a huge amount of work. They've just been lucky assuming they're playing rng , 2. Steve Administrator Im glad you've finally come around. If you knew 10 players who used a reasonable progression, how many would be in profit after about 10, spins? They've both been playing for years and have clocked up s of thousands of bets, so there's no question about it being an illusion or just a winning streak. In my page i call it the illusion of a winning system: www. 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